You just need to spread Fly and Cut among the rest of your party. One move that Krabby can't learn is waterfall, and that is not a problem because Gyarados uses it. 2nd gen i used krabby for surf/cut/strength/whirlpool and tentacool for whirlpool/waterfall/surf (though most waters do this) 3rd gen Tropius, cut/flash/fly/strength (or rock smash) 4th bibarel, easily. )-Sliced. Sharpedo for Waterfall/Surf/Dive, and Linoone for Cut/Rock Smash/Strength/Surf. Well Psyduck is an awesome HM Slave - it learns Surf, Strength, Flash, Whirlpool and Waterfall. Who are the good HM Slaves? Rufflet is a good Pokemon to hold Fly, Cut, Strength, and Rock Smash (Not an HM, but once was). It just had to be in party. roflcopter9001 • 9 yr. I know Nintendo tends to make Pokemon slow if they want to make them stronger in other aspects, but they could just give this thing uneven stats. Mr_Yooj 7 years ago #2. A term used within parts of the fandom to refer to a Pokémon in a Trainer's party that is used for navigational support through the use of field moves—generally those taught by Hidden Machines. ago. Switch FC: 1161-9206-0151 | IGN: Mr. Flash is a tricky one but you don't need it that often besides caves, so catch a voltorb for it. ninjawalruses • 10 yr. if you. 8 is possible, but some players use Fly and Surf for competitive moves. They have. Tentacool can be used for Surf, Waterfall, Whirlpool and Cut. I'm starting a new game and have forgotten about HM Slaves, any ideas? Thanks in advance. Best answer. Fly is easy enough to allocate to a non-slave Pokémon so that leaves Cut, Strength, Surf, and Waterfall. It is known as the Pokémon which resembles armor. This is a joke look at TC. so you wouldn't need an hm slave. Waterfall is STAB boosted by Mystic Water and it’s. I used Smeargle as my HM slave. Sleep Powder. Hope that helps. I have open slots, so I'm open to carrying 2 HM Slaves. Cut+Flash+Rock Smash: Paras, Tangela, Bulbasaur, Mew. 2. My Pickup Linoone. Like. Mitholan 8 years ago #5. Where to find the HMs in HeartGold/SoulSilver. Fun fact: you can have all hm's on just 2 pokemon in gen 3. Slap flash on something just for Dark Cave, keep something with Cut in your 6th slot, and other than that you aren't hurting anything by. ManicOwl • 11 yr. All of these Pokemon should be obtainable relatively early. kirbymuncher 11 years ago #4. darkninja77 15 years ago #4. Whirlpool. The two together can cover everything, and each of them on their own can learn quite a few. Mew would also be a good option, but I doubt you would want to ruin its moveset (it is better off as a. You could just as easily stock up on Repels and take the long way around. Switch Friend Code: SW-575074-9828-99. Is Bidoof a good HM slave? Bidoof gets made fun of a lot for being weak and simply goofy looking. Rolling with Gengar and lover of Tinkaton. Growth. (comes in handy in R/B/Y for facing Articuno if you give it a different fourth move) In the Third Generation games, he's still pretty good, because he can learn: Surf. ago. 19. Linoone was one of my best pokemon in my first run of emerald. Cut, Strength, Waterfall, RockSmash, etc. You can also replace Swampert with Bibarel. 2010. Surf can get replaced immediately after Koga. Sinisterserpant77 • 1 hr. Hidden Machines (HMs) in Black/White. These two terms' meaning is the same. Related questions. Bibarel is god tier HM Slave. Trying to find a good hm slave for Kanto. Slakoth is an amazing hm slave, its actually quite incredible how many HMs and TMs it can learn. And a Dragonite with Fly, Defog, Cut, Whirlpool. The guide mentions that Lickitung can learn 6 of the HMs. It’s kind of funny that the Box Legendaries are just HM Slaves and further more they are just past and future versions of a bicycle. hm-slave. You don't have to teach it to use it. 1st gen, ehhh, forgot, i think oddish/bellsprout for cut/flash and ingame mons for surf/strength. 4. This is a good bit of coverage, and the swap of Waterfall for Strength actually comes in handy throughout a lot of the game. R - Official Slowpoketail Vendor. It also learns every HM, heals itself automatically, and has some neat ability to top it off. mad. FC: 2595-1420-5740. Garchomp was a new, albeit forgetful addition to Generation IV. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. Krabby/Kingler makes an excelent slave, at least back in the Second Generation games. 5. Both of those moves were made vital to progress back in the original games, so I think they will return and two different moves will take the place of the. Psyduck's another good one, he can. Braviery was a great HM slave in White 2, being able to do fly and the land based ones but couldn't do any of. 5th gen wasnt fully unnecessary to carry hm. Secretpower. Generation 4 introduced two new HMs: Defog, for clearing foggy areas; and Rock Climb, for scaling rock faces in certain places. Such a Pokémon doesn't exist, of course, but this means that Pokémon closer to this ideal are the best. Tropius. in Pokemon emerald nincada is a good hm slave but in Pokemon pearl flash is not an hm. What is the best HM slave early in the game of Pokemon crystal? What is an 'HM Slave'? powerful hm slave pokemon. All I can think of is bibarel for gen. Gyarados is also great. In Pearl. The best HM Slave in the history of Pokemon, and one that's available in X and Y, is Bibarel, the evolved form of Bidoof. I used Linoone. HM Locations. Depending on how you teach them, or what's most important. Bibarel is your best HM and TM slave without Flash (Cut, Dig, Surf, Rock Climb, Covet/Thief, Strength, Waterfall, Rock Smash, Dive) I use Kingler if cut needed or Quagsire if Flash is needed. What is the best hm slave for FireRed? Well not every Pokemon can learn all the hm moves, try tropius. You get this Pokémon very early in-game and it can learn all the HM's except Waterfall (not sure. Tropius is best for that. I don't remember which games the Skarmory and Tropius are best for because I think it was game specific due to HM changes, but they work great. Surf, Strength, Cut, and Rock Smash. 4 luiga u should have fly , surf , whirlpool , water fall. However, it looks like you've got HM Cut and HM Flash tooken care of with Meowth. Symph. I use a Munchlax with the pick up ability and the HM moves Strength, Surf, Rock Smash, and Rock Climb. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. jonosaurus • 9 yr. For ORAS: Tropious - fly, cut, flash, strength/rock smash Sharpedo - Surf, Dive, Waterfall, strength/rock smash. IGN: Kyle Member of DEBG. Slakoth is an amazing hm slave, its actually quite incredible how many HMs and TMs it can learn. HM slaves in Pokemon SoulSilver. skarm. Garchomp. skarmory is one of the best but you can only get it. gbchaosmaster. My team is already full. You need Surf, and Charizard can’t learn that. This is especially true if youre looking for an alternative to the usuals. Surf is also coverage but it is an HM to boot. In later games, I find Gyrados to be a great HM slave. As the other guy said, though, aside from one use of Cut near the start of the game, required HM use is postgame-only, so don't worry about it too much. That way you can still limit when the player can get to certain areas without restricting their party selection. HM Locations. credit to a liikala post. Check the Bulbagarden home page for up-to-date Pokémon news and discuss it on the forums or in the Bulbagarden Discord server. . This, normally, includes two pokemon that I use as slaves, because during the whole adventure, I like that they get all the HMs. >Hope I helped. This Pokemon can learn every known HM with the exception of Fly, and it. Boards. PSN - Darigandevil (Vita and Ps3) Black 2 - 2753-3440-3329. It learns: Rock Smash (D/P/Pt/HG/SS) Cut (all games) Strength (all games) Whirlpool (HG/SS). New comments cannot be posted. Nidoran (both male and female) are easy enough to get to. The best HM Slave in the history of Pokemon, and one that's available in X and Y, is Bibarel, the evolved form of Bidoof. Like in Pokémon Red & Blue, Krabby can learn Cut, Strength, and Surf. Joined Sep 24, 2007 Messages 738 Reaction score 0. 2. Quagsire can also work as an HM mule in the Johto games. I beat all 16 Gym Leaders and need to train my main Pokemon to beat Red (all upper 50s at the moment). I'd rather just sack a move on a Pokemon to get a better one in my party than an HM slave that's useless in battle. Insert any pokemon that can learn Fly and Defog (DPP) at the lowest level possible. Just switch your HM slave in and out of your PC whenever you need one. In the first Gen, Mew is by far the best HM slave for getting about. mew. Shadow Ball is coverage. Not like Gen 4 where you need multiple HM slaves to cut, defog, surf, waterfall, rock smash, strength, and rock climb. Cut: Virbank City (from Roxie) Fly: Route 5 (from Bianca) Surf: Route 6. A good HM slave, especially with Pickup, the best ingame ability. I will always love my Level 18 Bibarel that KO'd Cynthia's Garchomp. Furret and Licktung can each learn every HM but Fly. Hidden Machines (HMs) in FireRed/LeafGreen. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment HighwayWizard • Additional comment actions. Like in Pokémon Red & Blue, Krabby can learn Cut, Strength, and Surf. Reply1 Answer. Also Arecus,Darkrai, Deoxys, Dialga, Entei, Mew, and Raikou. best hm slave? Topic Archived; Page 1 of 2; Last ; More Topics from this Board. Sentret is the worst in every way. 3. Be the very best in Sinnoh!. For a field HM slave, try Charizard. Raikiri_Knight 13 years ago #2. Fly, Surf, and sometimes even Strength are all useful battle moves in the game, so all you need is something that can Cut and Flash. What Megas do. Capable of learning cut, surf, strength, rock smash, and rock climb, this otherwise useless Pokémon makes for a relatively good HM slave. . I think a Quagsire (or Wooper)/Sandslash (Sandshrew) combo works well in HG/SS. darkninja77 15 years ago #4. In my opinion, Bibarel is the best HM slave in every game. Top 10 HM Slaves in Pokémon 1. Fates Castle Address - 12644-28577-90353-44066 Ft. surgemaster140 8 years ago #4. Capable of learning cut, surf, strength, rock smash, and rock climb, this otherwise useless Pokémon makes for a relatively good HM slave. Answers. Even then, you don’t need Fly to run Red/Blue. 7. Both can learn Cut and Strength, however Furret can learn Surf in addition to this. Kadabra for sure. This list will lay out some of the best Pokémon to catch specifically for HM use. If you're looking for someone to use the big four (Cut, Fly, Strength, and Surf), I'm pretty sure your only options are Mew, Dragonite, or Arceus. If you want a flying 'HM slave' Tropius is great too: Fly, Strength, Rock Smash and Cut. Bibarel is probably the best HM slave in existence. . The two cover every HM. Tai (Platinum) - 4683 4348 4300. Bibarel is hands down the best HM slave. found out dabura is pretty much the best HM slave. Below are all the Pokémon from Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald with the HMs they can learn. Victreebel has better options than Acid: Razor Leaf. •Dive-Only compulsory in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald. Answers. This is due to Fighting’s great coverage against the Elite Four and Steven. Best answer. Dont quote me on that tho. GalladetheGreat 11 years ago #2. Pokemon Black Version 2. Excluding surf. Actually, as it turns out, the only HM you need to get fully through the game is Cut. Like Ludicolo, Crawdaunt can also learn six out of the eight HMs in the game. p. They can both easily be caught pre-elite 4, and between them can learn all 8 HMs. The only Hoenn Pokemon who might make a better HM mule than Ludicolo is Crawdaunt. I mainly made this topic to benefit would be searchers when the games come. PO_hokoCHO_TO 13 years ago #3. Skarmory is also a recommed HM slave because he can learn cut, fly, defog and rock smash meaning u can learn other important HM for the other 3. 5. For a cave HM slave, use Raichu. knows false swipe, soak, spore and ingrain. Rock smash and Flash should be relegated to hm slaves. Furret knows every HM is except Fly. ive got two smeargles trained up: one as an hm slave, and the other is the one i use to catch pokes. ago. For starters, Gyarados and Sharpedo have the same HM learned with 5, while Tentacruel only has 4, not having access to Rock Smash and. Flamethrower because of PP, and Amnesia since this is just in-game, where Thunder Wave isn't as useful (but can still be chosen). Dk bout other gens but Gen I you can do Slowpoke/bro and Farfetch’d. This giant jellyfish is known throughout the franchise as one of the most annoying creatures as it shows up in almost every game. Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. Luckily you don't need more than say three HMs at a time so it worked out. Didn’t really use one for cut in johto but I need to restore the power plant and stuff for the magnet train ;-; Furret/geodude works fine. ago. KillerFugu • 4 yr. My favorite HM slave has always been tropius. Slowbro - Surf, Psychic, Flash, Teleport. Thus Aerodactly isn't bad: Fly, Rock Smash, strength. Unfortunately, Rufflet is a White 2 exclusive Pokemon. Dive Interactive checklist of the Hidden Machines (HMs) found in Pokémon Black & White, their locations and which Pokémon can learn them. CruisiN. 1 vote. It knows Cut, Surf, Waterfall, and Dive. 3. ORAS/Gen 3 were the worst, Platinum was the best. Also, Dive is obtained after the Elite 4. Most of those TMs are among the best in the game, including Ice Beam. The preevolutions of Hydreigon are useless as HM Slaves, only learning Strength. Obviously, Mew is the best HM slave, if you use a gameshark or the Catch Mew glitch. Strength. I don`t like to ruin legendaries with HMs, infact I normally like to leave them completely untouched so I can trade them (I plan on migrating them a lot over to my Diamond. I have a skarmory to learn fly, cut, rock smash, and flash. 360 GT: Doom. He can learn all HM moves. ago. Both Kabutops and Aerodactyl suffer from poor movepools. but they're probably not what you're looking for. These three are the best/ most common Hm slaves IMO. #13. Actually many prefer Bibarbel and Tropius. No, Mew is, but Dragonite's pretty good, too, as it can learn every HM. The other Gyarados I use it as an elemental slave - attacks are an. It learns: Cut, Rock Smash, Strength, Surf (yes). Cut, Thief, Strength, Surf. Advertisement Coins. I've currently got my HMs spread over a few semi useless 'mons that I had available, but I'm getting to the point now where I want to level up my Larvitar and Extremespeed Dratini to get them E4 ready, which with my 3 far-too-low-level HM. Add your answer. PersonalityDefects. Pokemon Alpha Sapphire IGN: Haruka. Whats your go to? comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. Barring Mew & Arceus of course. Flash is a tricky one but you don't need it that often besides caves, so catch a voltorb for it. Since in AS/OR you can use the Eon flute for flying, Linoone is the only HM slave you need in your party unless you need to dive or get up a waterfall. ago. rattatatouille Takwhomi • 10 yr. Gyarados is. New, casual, players introduced in the last few years and played latest games have never experienced hm slaves. It can learn Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, and Surf. ~Waterfall. The Surf HM is Corsola's best Water-type STAB move, with Strength and Rock Smash providing HM utility. Like a thought parasite. >Gogoat is a great slave, it can learn Cut, Surf and Strength. The two together can cover everything, and each of them on their own can learn quite a few. TM13 (Ice Beam) Ice Beam is one of the few TMs that can be bought in the Celadon Game Corner. Mar 20, 10 at 5:25pm (PST) ^. Linoone. The best HM slave is obviously Smeargle with being able to learn any move in the game (except transform and struggle). History. . For those remaining hms, most flying types can learn both. Thing is, Surf is a good attack and it is very likely you'll have a Water type on your team able to use this. Flygon is the powerhouse of the team (it's worth training up. Thing is, Surf is a good attack and it is very likely you'll have a Water type on your team able to use this. Bibarel. 3DS Friend Code: 1805-3322-4950. That just leaves HM Flash, HM Cut, and HM Fly. View source. Tentacool: Cut, Surf, Dive, Whirlpool, Waterfall. And maybe some others, I'm not sure, but I am about those since that is the moveset for mine. Psyduck's another good one, he can. Hidden Machines (HMs) in HeartGold/SoulSilver. Geodude helps if ''your head falls off''. answered Sep 28, 2014 by Rick Gastly. having HM slaves take up the limited space on your team. I have a Bunnelby who does Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, and Cut. Bidoof gets made fun of a lot for being weak and simply goofy looking. u can find tropius in the great marsh wildley and u should use bibarel ( it can learn every hms except for fly and defog). Best hm slave. Gen 2. I decided to go with Pancham as my HM slave for now. MrGrubbin89 • 2 yr. sqwigizzzzzzz 15 years ago #4. commented Feb 19, 2020 by Fizz 2 Answers 1 vote Best answer My source shows that a lot of people agree on four good HM users: Bibarel, Skarmory, Tropius, and Rhydon. Which starter is best to complete story . 1 Answer. You are correct! You can get them deleted by the move deleter but not by overwriting it with another move. Urvilan • 2 yr. 2. (n. 13rucezzz 10 years ago #4. The reasoning is that I would never deposit my dearest Dragonite & because of breeding I kinda got attached to my slugma :) 1. Not sure what pokemon can learn both of those besides Mew. I use Rayquaza for Fly so that HM isn't needed in any others. Return is STAB. Insert any pokemon that can learn Fly and Defog (DPP) at the lowest level possible. ago. Pokemon Gaia Archived post. Major Battles:. Surf (HM, gift from your rival) Strength (HM, gift from Grant) Unfortunately, I’m making Blastoise an HM slave because it learns almost all of the HMs in Kalos. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment byokero swing from the Chandelure • Additional comment actions. Krabby is a Water-type Pokémon and it’s best known for its rapid speed and aggression. Instead of cut, you get a pair of shears; instead of surf, you get a foldable canoe; instead of fly, you get access to teleporters in PokeCenters, etc. EJ902 14 years ago #5. Skoldy • 9 yr. jschristy 13 years ago #9. "Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent. Yes, you can get around it with an HM slave. TM-wise, it should be taught Scald very soon and potentially Rain Dance at level 34. Until HM moves are made unnecessary for going through the games their will always be pokemon who will only be caught for the sake of muling the moves we need but dont want to use. It takes too long to level up and in Gen 2 Dratini is only obtained late and at a very low level compared to the rest of your team. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. Flash is not an HM in HG/SS, I know, but it's still needed and my Feraligatr already has Waterfall as part of it's DD moveset, so it all works great. Fly is a decent flying move so not really a slave. Pancham is pretty good early on, Strength, Cut, Rock Smash and Surf. PokeCommunityHey! Your account is not linked! Get you trainer hat by linking your account here!However, Bibarel, being Normal-Water type, is easily the most useful HM slave as it can learn every 5th generation HM except for fly. 3kSharpedo, as an HM Slave, could learn all the water HMs along with Strength and Rock Smash. Flamethrower because of PP, and Amnesia since this is just in-game, where Thunder Wave isn't as useful (but can still be chosen). I really can't think of much to put here, so conversation away! Questions to get you started (feel free to suggest): Do you use HM slaves or do you share the load among the team. The EVs allow it to hit as hard and fast as possible. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM. Please remember to follow the manual of style and code of conduct at all times. AK_Wolfman 15 years ago #5. This Pokémon can learn every known HM with the exception of Fly, and it. They can also learn rock smash and evolve at level 15. Jul 18, 2008 #16 Bibarel : cut/strength/rock smash/rock climb Linoone is good too, but my linoone is for stealing items. Yeah there's a house with the move deleter, re-learner, and tutor. [deleted] • 4 yr. It learns Strenth, Surf and Dive. 489 posts, 11/11 2:33AM. I like Golduck because he can learn almost every HM. My only shiny I have is a shiny bidoof, it must be a sign from the gods. I've since learned (with some googling and also via this thread) that there are other good choices for HM slave, too, and that Tropius can be used legitimately with the right moveset. If none slaves you carry around are going to have these moves you should be looking for 2 pokemon who can learn the remaining 5 to 7 HM's your current game requires and fill the. re: HM slaves - Pokémon Soul Silver. Both can learn Dig, surf, strength, i think waterfall and rock smash aswell. ) Just about your only option is going to be a Mew. . It can learn HM 1,3, and 5. Bibarel and Tropius. Dragonite learning all 8 would make sense IMO, but I don't think he can. Slugma/Magcargo don't provide any additional utility compared to Camerupt and Magmar, but Slugma is the easiest Flame Body /. Share Sort by:. Go Phillies! 0___0 (Topic Creator) 14 years ago #8. It can also learn Rock Smash, which is still a TM in this generation, but it's very useful. I had a shiny bibarel as my slave in diamond. Just switch your HM slave in and out of your PC whenever you need one. They're easy to find, and can learn Surf, Cut, and Strength (they're even better in gen 2, because Rock Smash is an HM move for Gold/Silver/Crystal). Nidoking/Nidoqueen (Surf & Strength) In Pokémon Yellow, Nidoking and Nidoqueen are easiest Pokémon to obtain that can both learn Surf and Strength. Dk bout other gens but Gen I you can do Slowpoke/bro and Farfetch’d. rampardose. The best HM Slave in the history of Pokemon, and one that's available in X and Y, is Bibarel, the evolved form of Bidoof. Additionally, Whirlpool is a waste of a move slot on Dragonite when it could have a better non-HM move. zigoon best hm slave in hoeen. 3 lbs). Piranha Plant isn't from a dead series. It can learn Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, and Surf. Well, the 4 main HMs you need to get through the game are. Anyhow, even if you have an HM slave, some HMs will end up in your other team members anyway, be it because they're really useful moves in combat, or because your HM slave of choice cannot learn them. 1 Answer. Below we list every Pokémon available in Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire with the HMs they can learn. ninjawalruses • 10 yr. ago. I beat all 16 Gym Leaders and need to train my main Pokemon to beat Red (all upper 50s at the moment). It learns four HMs in Generation II, including two of the most useless, Flash and Whirlpool. I used 2 HM slaves so the other 4 Pokemon could gain more experience, and those 2 HM slaves are. Select up to 4 moves then click Find Pokémon to search.